With the NBA regular season coming to a close it's time for awards week at The Hoops Manifesto. We've teamed up with some of Bloguin's best NBA writers to vote on who gets the (virtual) hardware. Next up: All-NBA Teams
Voting Panel: Jeff Fox from The Hoops Manifesto, Lives from Knicks Fanatics, College Wolf and Bonk from TWolves Blog, Philip Rossman-Reich from Orlando Magic Daily, and Don from With Malice.
(bolded stats indicate player lead league in that category)
First Team All-NBA
Chris Paul - Clippers
19.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 9.1 apg, 2.5 spg
Kobe Bryant - Lakers
27.9 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.2 spg
LeBron James - Miami
27.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 6.2 apg, 1.9 spg, 53.1% FG
Kevin Durant - Oklahoma City
28.0 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 3.5 apg, 1.3 spg, 1.2 bpg
Andrew Bynum - Lakers
18.7 ppg, 11.8 rpg, 1.9 bpg, 55.8% FG
Synposis: Different team, same results for Chris Paul this season. Kobe Bryant had a polarizing season this year - some feel he played great, some not so much. However, there is no denying the type of season LeBron James had - he was statistically dominant. James's only real challenge for the MVP is Kevin Durant, who was almost equally as amazing this past season. Andrew Bynum supplanted Dwight Howard as our First Team center - quite the feat.
Second Team All-NBA
Russell Westbrook - Oklahoma City
23.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.7 spg
Dwyane Wade - Miami
22.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.6 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.3 bpg
Kevin Love - Minnesota
26.0 ppg, 13.3 rpg, 2.0 apg
Blake Griffin - Clippers
20.7 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 3.2 apg
Dwight Howard - Orlando
20.6 ppg, 14.5 rpg, 1.5 spg, 2.1 bpg, 57.3% FG
Synposis: The much-maligned Russell Westbrook had his best season as a pro and has OKC looking like a legit contender. Speaking of a team's second option, Dwyane Wade had another typical season for Miami. Who would have though that some day Kevin Love would be posting 26 & 13 nights in the NBA on the regular? He takes a licking and keeps on ticking - another 20 & 10 season for Blake Griffin. Despite leading the league in rebounding and shooting, Dwight Howard will have to settle for a place on our All-NBA Second Team.
Third Team All-NBA
Tony Parker - San Antonio
18.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 7.7 apg, 1.0 spg
Rajon Rondo - Boston
11.9 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 11.7 apg, 1.8 spg
Josh Smith - Atlanta
18.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.4 spg, 1.7 bpg
Carmelo Anthony - New York
22.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.1 spg
Kevin Garnett - Boston
15.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.0 bpg
Synposis: There's no way San Antonio would be the best team in the NBA (in the regular season) if not for the superb play of Tony Parker. Steve Nash's grip on the assist crown was finally wrested away by Rajon Rondo this season. The much-underrated Josh Smith had another stat-stuffing season. On the flipside, the much-overrated Carmelo Anthony had an up-and-down year in Gotham. Who said Kevin Garnett was finished and washed up?
Others receiving votes: Deron Williams, Marc Gasol, LaMarcus Aldridge, Steve Nash, Pau Gasol, Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, Derrick Rose, James Harden, Chris Bosh
Previous Award Winners: Executive of the Year, Coach of the Year, Most Improved Player, Sixth Man of the Year, All-Rookie Team, Rookie of the Year, All-Defensive Teams, Defensive Player of the Year
Next up: Most Valuable Player
is this the actual teams? because I know MVP was lebron but I've been looking all over the internet for the all nba teams
Hey @WithMalice your boy Gasoft is really looking like a 3rd teamer!! What a competitor. You never were able to tell me why Mitch KupCHECK deserves GM of the year. But thanks for the laugh!
Dirk should've been on the 3rd team. Can't believe Melo & Josh were picked over him.
KG is owning. Winner.
@BonK Hey champ, not sure what your point is, or do you even have one?
I agree that Gasol is sucking at the moment, but this is a REGULAR SEASON AWARD. Do you understand that?
So tell me: we should get Dirk to turn in his MVP award because he sucked in the first round of those playoffs?
Basketball chief... you know, round ball? Played indoors?Clues. Get 'em.
@WithMalice I bring up good points, and you just counter with nonsense and meaningless statements.
It is pointless to even debate with you. You don't listen or validate points, you just pull nonsense out of nowhere and call me "chief" and "champ".
I don't want to clutter up Jeff's great board with childish garbage, so I will let you get the final word.
I am 100% certain I am better at basketball than you so watch your mouth with that last sentence.
Here, I'll help: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/derivative?s=t
Champ? You don't think MVP trumps all of that?Anyway: you don't think you're flogging a dead horse just a wee bit there fella?
@CollegeWolf According to you. Fact.
@BonK @CollegeWolf Daniel: firstly, the All NBA 1st team isn't chosen on "5 best players". It's the two best at guard, 2 best at forward, and best center. Sometimes that doesn't equate to being the "5 best players". Quite often actually. I had thought this was common knowledge.
Additionally, sports don't always work like that. Another thing I thought was pretty common knowledge. If it did, do we really think Dirk Nowitzki's 2007 Mavs would lose to the Dubs? Or should we take his MVP trophy back too...
Simply reality Dan.
@WithMalice @CollegeWolf Come on Don, don't put words in my mouth again. Do the math. If one team has (according to your votes) 2 of the best 5 players in the league, and 3 of the best 15, plus a GM of the year (which would mean good role players), one would think they could at least get to the conference finals.
That is simple logic Don.
@WithMalice He doesn't deserve it. Simple fact.
@WithMalice Just because he made it doesn't mean he actually deserved it. Talk about living off his ridiculous "clutch" reputation (lololol.)
@CollegeWolf Except enough people disagreed with you that not only did Kobe make the All NBA teams, he made the 1st team.
The hubris to believe that everyone else's wrong...
@WithMalice I've liked Durant and followed him since he was in high school. Also, I am a huge fan of any team that is not the Lakers.
@CollegeWolf So given your team isn't competing in the playoffs, which team are you jumping on the bandwagon of? And if they succeed, do you think you might support them forever more?
I mean, if you were a Thunder supporter, "you" trashing the team I support might actually mean something. As it is, it's simply mildly amusing.
@CollegeWolf @BonK "Provokes everyone"... well, I think it's been established that you have required no provocation whatsoever to become a complete dick on this subject CW. You have stated several times that you despise the Lakers, and Kobe... and insinuated that you feel he doesn't even belong on the 3rd team this season. Those are your words.
I missed where I stated that he was the "best player ever". More dirtbaggery... yet another case of you misrepresenting what's been said, merely because your own position is very shaky.
Yes, I voted him 1st team. Obviously I was not alone on that. If someone had him on the 2nd team - or lower - that would be their prerogative. What I do take exception to is your constant slagging off of me, and my team. Again, your choice to do so, but don't think that just because you're feeling "chippy" that I'll just sit back, smile, and take it.
Hahaha... "watch my mouth"? Dude, you come in, yap right away and disrespect me (which I don't care about - but don't be surprised when you get it back) immediately slag me off... then whine like a stuck piggie when it gets thrown back at you? AND have the temerity to claim your hands are clean?
And LOVE the last line: tell me, do you wear your underpants on the outside of your pants when you play?
Nice comments guys, haha. Hey With Malice - did you vote Kupcheck for GM of the Year?! hahahahaha! Some one did, it HAD to be you.
For what it's worth I had Kobe on my 1st team. I thought Dirk should've been on there. Agree that Bynum should be 1st team over Dwight this season. Love is 2nd team.
And come on, Blake > Pau this year. That's obvious.
Blake got the last spot on my 3rd team, but still...Pau is the ultimate 3rd banana. If I'm putting a 3rd on my ballot, it's Harden or Pierce/Rondo.
@BonK Agree with everything here. I mean Mitch Cupcake.... really?!?!?!
@CollegeWolf Hahaha... yes CW. You need "provocation" to act like an asshat.
@WithMalice I was feeling admittedly chippy at the time. But it's also ok for people to dislike Kobe, you know.
@CollegeWolf Gah. edit-caught.
So, it's upon me to ignore the juvenile name-calling/slagging off of the team I support.
If ignored then none of this rigamarole would have went down :-)
@WithMalice If ignored then none of this rigamarole would have went down :-)
@WithMalice You started it.
@BonK Hell yes, I did. Kupchak (might want to note the spelling there) dumped salary, filled in the Lakers most significant need... and got better. Tell me: why is that worthy of laughter?
Blake Griffin... yup. I can see that. If you decide to look no further than his thunderous dunks, then yes - put him in the first team then.
Guy struggles defensively, can't hit open jumpers outside of 6', and cannot hit his FTs. So...
And you have the temerity to call me out: but then suggest that Dirk should be ahead of either Durant or LeBron?
Sheesh dude... thanks for that. I enjoyed that one.
@WithMalice Oh man. Here we go. Mitchy boy gave away Lamar Odom, and failed to get CP3 to LA, while alienating Gasolina in the meantime. He deserves GM of the year, because of.... ??? .... Sessions? Please.
I meant Dirk should've been on the list, as in on the top 3 teams somewhere. He was on my 3rd.
I'm not a Blake guy either but I just can't see putting Gasol ahead of him unless you are a biased Lakers fan.
@BonK "Here we go" - because you should be free to take shots at me/what I say - and I absolutely shouldn't respond. Because... ?
'K. You figure that Odom was going to be of value post the nixed trade to NOLA? To anyone? C'mon... it's LA's fault now that the CP3 trade was vetoed. Right.
And address what was said: I stated that I would have Smoove/Dirk/Pau over Griffin. I assume from your cherry-picking that you agree that Smoove/Dirk should be in over Blake.
Tell me: other than merely offering up "you're biased" what other than dunks does Griffin offer?
Some other thoughts...
Blake Griffin, over Nowitzki/Pau/Smoove? What a joke. Other than dunk, what can he do? No defensive game at all, cannot hit an open jumper.MELO? On the strength of his season-finish I guess. I'd take any of the season of any of the aforementioned 3 guys over either Melo/Griffin.
Kobe on the first team?!? Wow. He's maybe third team, at best. Maybe. Check the stats... And not just points per game for god's sake. Parker is getting hosed, and there is no way whatsoever that Melo should be anywhere near this list.
@CollegeWolf How about, CW, my argument last night that Tracy McGrady-Prime > Durant today?
@Daddyfatsax Well McGrady in his prime was older and had been in the NBA longer, right? At his absolute best he might have been better than Durant. However, Durant is still getting better, and could end up being one of the better players in the history of the NBA during his prime/career.
@WithMalice @BradBornhorst @BonK @Jeff Fox @Daddyfatsax See what happens when Kobe finally shares the ball? The Lakers can be unstoppable.
@BradBornhorst @WithMalice @BonK @Jeff Fox @Daddyfatsax Kobe looked like he was all nba 17th team tonight.
@WithMalice @BradBornhorst @Jeff Fox @Daddyfatsax They did just get destroyed. Kobe played surprisingly well for being "sick", I'll give him that!
@CollegeWolf Really dude? OBVIOUSLY your hate is clouding your judgement, just a tiny wee bit.
@WallyWorld Hold on a sec - I didn't even say where I thought he should be at all, but the vote as was stands.
It's not me who insinuated that perhaps he's not even 3rd team...
It always HAS to be one extreme on blog comments sections/forums, doesn't it?
So Kobe is worthy of the 2nd or 3rd team? Gee, what a horrible player he must be according to everyone...
@CollegeWolf Unfortunately, that's not all you said. Equally unfortunately, I bit.
@WithMalice Like I said in my original comment, Kobe is not worthy of 1st team selection. That is all.
@CollegeWolf You have neither been as succinct, or at all reasonable about it. When it comes to Kobe Bryant, your hate is defining. You neither see, or care what really is going on. No-one's said that he was of "MVP" level, yet you've already played that card, haven't you? Just any time #24 comes up, you become very disappointing.
@WithMalice What are you talking about??? All I've tried to say is that Kobe isn't nearly as good as he used to be, or as good as some people seem to think he is. Face it, he's quickly declining. Especially this year. FACT.
@CollegeWolf Maybe. But hardly more so than all of this...
But when *hate* of a player gets to a point where you have not the slightest iota of objectivity, then I think it's time to reappraise what you're doing with your *fandom*.
I mean hey: I tried to go there on the T-Wolves earlier... but just couldn't. It's neither who I am, nor what I believe. It was BS, and I won't belittle myself by pretending it was so just to get a shot in on you. Both the act, and feeling the need to do so were demeaning, and I shouldn't have done it. My bad I guess.
I guess the player I dislike the most in the NBA is LeBron. But that doesn't stop me from appreciating what he's able to do as a player. Should I get to the point where my *hate* does become at least partly defining of who I am as a fan? Then it would be time for me to really consider if spewing forth that kind of villification is really worth it.
Knock yourself out if holding on to that kind of foam-at-the-mouth-bile is a necessity to who you are. But please, avoid ramming it down the throats of others.
@WithMalice Kobe is embarrassing to watch.
@CollegeWolf Stop it CW. It's gotten embarrassing.
@WithMalice Kobe is shooting a hearty 40% again this game! What a leader with those 25 shot attempts. Ridiculous.
@CollegeWolf Your understanding of shot distribution is cute.
@WithMalice Kobe's chucking away again tonight. More shots than Pau and Bynum combined. And the Lakers are losing. Go figure. HAHA.
@WithMalice It's true.
Blows my mind how simplistic you see it.
Yes CW. You're right. Everyone else's wrong.
That's a lot of people you have that over. That's some awesome hubris you have going there. Keep that up.
Wait a second, where did I say that he hasn't declined? Or that I completely IGNORED stats? Some interesting selective reasoning going on there. CW is ignoring anything remotely resembling *praise* for Kobe/LA. Always has, always will.
" Studly! MVP! "
Oh very nice.Tell me: where did I assert that?
Awesome stuff right there CW. Kudos to you.
Durant is better at Space Jaming Tracy McGrady for his length and game.
@Daddyfatsax Durant has become a pretty solid defender, and Kobe has gotten worse with age. Oh well, whatever I won't argue that point too much. And other than rebounding, yes I concur, Kobe wins on the above list.
Better at being an asshole
Better defensively - help and man
Better at yelling at his teammates
Better at rebounding...nope
Better at macking breezies
Better at buying wedding rings
Better ball handler
Better fashion sense
Leadership? Not sure...in my opinion they are both quite average leaders, in however my subjective conceptualization of leadership manifests itself.
Kobe is enjoying a classic case of halo bias where his name is carrying him . He's obviously still very good but you're as biased as CW if you can't see how he has slipped. While I'm always first and foremost an eyeball guy, you can't just ignore stats. He has an enormous usage rate that masks, to those not paying very close attention to advanced stats, his decline in efficiency. He's still very good defensively, which CW is overlooking. He's a better at everything else than Durant (Durant is clearly the better scorer)
@WithMalice Oh, and 3.5 turnovers per game compared to 4.6 assists per game! Studly! MVP!
@WithMalice Well now you are just generalizing and making up stuff.
Kobe led the league with 23 field goal attempts per game. Next closest was the scoring champ with 19.7 per game.
On top of the fact that he took the most shots of anyone in he league, his shooting was just brutal: 43% overall and 30% from three pointers. Yeah, that's awesome! Everyone go salute the ball chucker Kobe!
You know if he'd shot half as many times and just fed the ball inside to Pau or Bynum, the Lakers would be freakin unstoppable and would have been the #1 seed. But he's too selfish and egotistical to do that.
@CollegeWolf Hahahaha... "usage rate".
Gogo Hollinger-boy! Fall back on your stats. Reiterating: I'll watch the games.
Anyone who constantly (and yes, you CONSTANTLY) rips on Kobe Bryant falls in one of two categories:
1. Is coloured by his hate so badly that they cannot fathom any praise at all for Kobe/Lakers at all. Regardless.
2. Doesn't watch basketball.
Reality check CW: other than Henry Abbott, pretty much everyone is in agreement that Kobe's had a pretty damn good season.
@WithMalice Dude are you serious? First of all no one was comparing Love to Kobe. But if you must, Love is clearly far superior to Kobe statistically (cough cough Usage Rate cough cough)
Oh, and ripping on the TWolves? Wow, nice fall back there... good one. We were the most injured team in the NBA this year.
@CollegeWolf Ummm... you deride Kobe's game, yet he has the Lakers still playing. Love's team stunk it up royally second half of the season.
@WithMalice What does that have to do with anything? No one is talking about Kevin Love.
@CollegeWolf Gee. Yet look at where the Lakers are, compared to where K-Love's T-Wolves are.
Yes CW, everyone else's wrong. You're right.
@WithMalice I do watch the games. Kobe just isn't that good anymore. He's a chucker that plays a TON of minutes.
@CollegeWolf Whatever.Tell you what, you enjoy your boxscores, your statlines... and I'll watch the games.
@CollegeWolf Kobe was on the second team of my ballot. Parker third team.
Melo is one of those players that for some reason people consider a "star" despite not really ever being one.