Top 10 NBA Centers of All-Time

Written by Jeff Fox on .


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Do you have the NBA Lockout blues?  We feel your pain and have a cure for you.  The Hoops Manifesto has gathered together Bloguin's best basketball writers to rummage through the annals of NBA (and ABA) history (sounds dirty, but it's not - honest) to bring you rankings of the best players to have ever laced them up.  Next up: Top Ten NBA (or ABA) Centers of All-Time.

Voting panel:
Jeff Fox from The Hoops Manifesto, College Wolf and Dan Bonk from the TWolves Blog, Philip from Orlando Magic Daily, Don and brumbygg from With Malice and Ezra from the Purple and Gold Blog. 



10) Bill Walton - Portland Trail Blazers, San Diego/L.A. Clippers, Boston Celtics - 1974 - 1978, 1979 - 1980, 1982 - 1986, 1987 

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Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of the two NBA championship teams
- one-time NBA Finals MVP
- one-time NBA MVP
- two-time NBA All-Star
- two-time All-NBA selection
- two-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- one-time NBA Sixth Man of the Year

"The ultimate 'What if...' player." - Jeff Fox

"Walton was an absolute technician of the game, to an extent that was surprising in such a big man.  And but for the injuries, he'd be top 5 on this list.  The guts and determination and the very heart and soul of Rip City." - Don 

"Due to injuries Walton didn’t play all that much over his 10 year NBA career and his numbers don’t stack up against many of the greats. However, he won a title with a no-name brand Portland team as well as a second with the '86 Celtics. Walton was one of the more technically gifted centers with a great understanding of the game. Something that continues to be demonstrated in the announcing booth – if you can make sense of what he is saying!" - brumbygg
 
"Definitely a much better player than he was as an announcer. If Bill wasn't injured as much in his career, who knows where he'd be on this list. Walton's greatest contribution to the game is his selflessness and passing ability. He took as much pride and joy scoring the basket as much as opening things up for his teammates." - Ezra
 

9) Patrick Ewing - New York Knicks, Seattle Supersonics, Orlando Magic - 1985 - 2002

Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- eighth all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- sixth all-time in blocks in NBA history
- 11-time NBA All-Star
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- three-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- seven-time All-NBA selection

"Twice NBA finalist, no championships. Despite his lack of titles Ewing is deserving of a place on this list. A great defensive player (despite always being in foul trouble) Ewing could score too. Should have won a title in '94 against the Rockets, but John Starks’ all-time Game 7 bomb ensured that Patrick would go home empty handed." - brumbygg

"Ewing always seemed to come up short and it stained his otherwise great career. A great defender and dynamic offensive player, he never rose to the heights that Robinson and Olajuwon did. And that made him more of an afterthought at the end of his career when looking at the 1990s centers." - Philip
 
"Never won the elusive Championship, but he was an 11 time All-star who played against some of the best centers in the history of the NBA.  He also tallied almost 25,000 career points and 12,000 career rebounds." - College Wolf


8) David Robinson - San Antonio Spurs - 1989 - 1996, 1997 - 2003

Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of two NBA championship teams
- fifth all-time in blocks in NBA history
- fourth all-time in blocks per game in NBA history
- 10-time NBA All-Star
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team
- one-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- one-time NBA MVP
- 10-time All-NBA selection
- seven-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection

"Before the Twin Towers there was just The Admiral. A 7'1" almost unstoppable juggernaut, who could hit the mid-range jumper or take you to the hole. Needed Timmy D to make it to the next level with the Spurs, but still an outstanding player in his own right. His career numbers would have been even more impressive if he hadn’t completed his two year Navy commitment." - brumbygg

"Much like his contemporaries at center, Robinson was super athletic and anything but a traditional back-to-the-basket center. He was a fantastic player, but lacked perhaps the killer instinct to be a true champion. He was one of the true great men in the NBA, devoting a lot of time to the community in San Antonio." - Philip

"One of the most ripped players I have ever seen in real life, along with Karl Malone, Dwight Howard, Corey Maggette, and Ray Allen's calves." - Dan Bonk

"The Admiral may be too nice a guy to really carry a team to a championship, but his 21.1 points, 10.6 rebounds and 3 blocks per game career stats say he was nasty enough to be on this list." - Ezra 


7) George Mikan - Minneapolis Lakers - 1948 - 1954, 1955 - 1956

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Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of five NBA/BAA championship teams
- four-time NBA All-Star
- one-time All-BAA selection
- five-time All-NBA selection

"The original.  The very first true center as we've come to know them.  How good was he?  The backbone, the anchor of five championships.  That good.  Mikan casts a long shadow on every other name on this list." - Don 

"George Mikan forced the NBA to bring in 24 second shot clock, widened the lane from six feet to 12 feet and established goaltending rules. Oh, and he won five titles!  “Without 99 (Mikan), there is no me” – Shaquille O’Neal." - brumbygg
 
"His career stats are underwhelming to look at now, but at the time when he was the first great big man, he had no equal.  Also won five Championships in seven years." - College Wolf 


6) Moses Malone - Utah Stars, Spirits of St. Louis, Buffalo Braves, Houston Rockets, Philadelphia 76ers, Washington Bullets, Atlanta Hawks, Milwaukee Bucks, San Antonio Spurs - 1974 - 1992, 1993-1994

Rockets accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of one NBA championship team
- ninth all-time in games played in NBA history
- second all-time in free throws made in NBA history
- fourth all-time in free throws attempted in NBA history
- all-time leader in offensive rebounds in NBA history
- fifth all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- fifth all-time in total rebounds in NBA history
- seventh all-time in points in NBA history
- three-time NBA MVP
- one-time NBA Finals MVP
- 13-time NBA/ABA All-Star
- two-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- eight-time All-NBA selection
- ABA All-Rookie Team

"In my opinion, one of the most overlooked greats the game has ever seen.  Just look at that resume." - Jeff Fox

"Almost the forgotten man on this list.  Held court for a decade, and by "held court" I mean dominated it.  Not quite as big as some of his peers, he more than made up for it by playing with a combined intelligence and ferocity that's rarely been seen." - Don 

"After anyone who played for the Celtics, Moses Malone was my favourite player to watch in the late 70s and 80s. Played on a great 76ers team in '83 with Dr J, Andrew Toney and Mo Cheeks to win his only championship. A beast, a workhorse and almost guaranteed 20 and 10 double-double every night. Also shot free throws at 76% over his career – stats that Shaq could only dream of!" - brumbygg
 
"Malone's numbers are about as prolific as any from the last 30 years. He was a 20/20 guy at a time when the 20/20 game was becoming a rarer thing (even if he was just playing volleyball with the rim to pad his stats sometimes). His longevity was something to admire too." - Philip
 
"A lot to be said when you're the first ABA/NBA player to ever come out of high school and to finish a 21-year career a Hall of Famer and to be called one of the absolute best to ever play the game. Well that and being the only player to ever average at least 20 PPG/10 RPG for four teams in history. Talk about being consistent!" - Ezra  


5) Hakeem Olajuwon - Houston Rockets, Toronto Raptors - 1984 - 2002

Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of two NBA championship teams
- seventh all-time in field goals made in NBA history
- eighth all-time in offensive rebounds in NBA history
- fourth all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- eighth all-time in steals in NBA history
- first all-time in blocks in NBA history
- ninth all-time in points in NBA history
- third all-time in blocks per game in NBA history
- two-time NBA Finals MVP
- one-time NBA MVP
- two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year
- 12-time NBA All-Star
- nine-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- 12-time All-NBA selection
- NBA All-Rookie Team


"At both ends of the floor, The Dream had few peers.  Big man size, small man skills.  Hakeem possessed one of the most recognizable moves of all-time in basketball.  I'm talking about "the dream shake", grace in a man that size is simply never seen.  And with The Dream, we saw it night in, night out." - Don

"If Hakeem had been a foot shorter he would have been one of the best PGs the game has ever seen! His agility, ball handling skills and speed enabled him to blow past his opponents with ridiculous ease. A great defender with an astounding career steals total. Houston’s Dream, certainly David Robinson’s nightmare!" - brumbygg

"Very few players in the league's history understood how best to use his size and athleticism to topple opponents. There are many guards who understand how to keep perimeter defenders off-balance, but Olajuwon might have been the master at keeping his post defenders off-balance. His array of spins, step backs and counter moves made him a genius in the low post. Even though he rarely got individual accolades during the season, he found ways to win one-on-one matchups. On his way to two titles, he toppled Patrick Ewing, David Robinson and Shaquille O'Neal." - Philip

"He was an amazing offensive player, and also one of the best defenders of his time.  Not only that, he scored over 26,000 career points and had over 13,000 career rebounds, made 12 All-star games, and is the only player in NBA history to win the NBA's MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and Finals MVP awards all in the same season (1993-94.)" - College Wolf 


4) Shaquille O'Neal - Orlando Magic, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics - 1992 - 2011

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Career accomplishments:

- member of four NBA championship teams
- fifth all-time in field goals made in NBA history
- second all-time in field goal % in NBA history
- third all-time in free throws attempted in NBA history
- sixth all-time in offensive rebounds in NBA history
- seventh all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- seventh all-time in blocks in NBA history
- fifth all-time in points in NBA history
- 15-time NBA All-Star
- three-time NBA Finals MVP
- one-time NBA MVP
- 14-time All-NBA selection
- three-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team

"It says much about Shaq's talent that, despite his multitude of accomplishments, most people feel like he could (and should) have done more." - Jeff Fox

"No one, and I mean no one was more physically gifted for basketball than Shaq.  He was bigger than you.  He was quicker than you.  Unfortunately, he never had the drive of Kobe or Jordan... because if he had, I think it quite possible that we'd be talking about a center as the Greatest Of All Time." - Don

"Proved that you can be big, but also athletic. Shaq’s ability to dominate a game was incredible. Trips to the finals with three teams and has four championships. Had his ego not been as big as his body, he could have ended up with even more titles. Oh, and maybe if he had worked on his free throws a little!" - brumbygg

"Very few players dominated the paint the way O'Neal did. His mere presence, even at an advanced age, demanded the defense's attention. He changed the rules the game was played as zone defense was re-implemented to deal with him. He could have been better if he was motivated to keep himself in shape throughout his career. Incredibly moody and always an entertainer, he had the athleticism and power that makes for a perfect center. Still, his career feels empty in a lot of ways." - Philip

"No doubt The Big Fella is a future Hall of Famer, but he's been underrated when it comes to this kind of list. Not sure why. He's got four titles, three Finals MVPs, a league MVP, two scoring titles and has been an All-Star a bunch of times. Then add to the fact that he was a 7-foot, 300-something pound behemoth that could jump like a kangaroo and move like a swingman." - Ezra


3) Wilt Chamberlain - Philadelphia/San Francisco Warriors, Philadelphia 76ers, Los Angeles Lakers - 1959 - 1973

Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of two NBA championship teams
- fourth all-time in minutes played in NBA history
- third all-time in field goals made in NBA history
- second all-time in free throws attempted in NBA history
- first all-time in total rebounds in NBA history
- fourth all-time in points in NBA history
- first all-time in minutes per game in NBA history
- second all-time in points per game in NBA history
- first all-time in rebounds per game in NBA history
- 13-time NBA All-Star
- one-time NBA Finals MVP
- four-time NBA MVP
- 10-time All-NBA selection
- two-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- NBA Rookie of the Year

"Wilt Chamberlain was ahead of his time, both in terms of being an athletic, mobile, multi-talented big man and also of being accused of caring more about personal stats than about winning." -

"Statistically, does The Big Dipper have any peers at all?  His single-minded pursuit of greatness was awe-inspiring... but he only got the two titles he won late in his career, his nemesis Bill Russell's Celtics being just that little bit better - Wilt never had the supporting cast that Russell did.  As a player?  Completely dominating." - Don

"No player has the scoring numbers Chamberlain has. The legendary 100-point game is going to go unmatched. But Chamberlain often cared more about himself than his teammates. He would score to the detriment of his teammates - the year he led the league in assists was almost to spite his detractors more than to help his teammates. As Bill Simmons would say, Chamberlain just did not understand the Secret." - Philip

"He certainly had the flashy stats and averages, but he only won 2 titles.  Could easily have been the best center in the history of the game, but he just didn't have the DNA that Russell and Kareem had.  If this list was based solely on statistics, then Wilt would certainly be #1... but it's not." - College Wolf


2) Bill Russell - Boston Celtics - 1956-1969


Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of 11 NBA championship teams
- second in rebounds in NBA history
- second in rebounds per game in NBA history 
- second in minutes per game in NBA history
- 12-time NBA All-Star
- five-time NBA MVP
- 11-time All-NBA Team
- one-time All-Defensive Team

"The best defensive center to ever play the game, period.  The way he played defense changed the game of basketball.  Had a pretty good game the other end of the floor too.  And as Kobe Bryant often points out - the all-time leader in the only statistic that matters: titles." - Don 

"I am probably in the minority here, but I am truly a fan of the work Bill Russell did. You cannot argue with the 11 championships and the way he played. Russell had a drive to win that was simply unmatched for his era. He was a defensive whiz and turned the paint into a no-fly zone. He was a supreme games man too, baiting Wilt Chamberlain into the scoring games that made his teams unsuccessful. Russell had such a large impact on every game he played and his record of success is simply unmatched." - Philip
 
"He's wearing a championship ring on his toe.  Enough said." - Dan Bonk 

"Russell is a bit overrated. He may have 11 championships, but that was because he had teammates who could score most of the points for him. Then again, without his defense and rebounding the Celtics most likely would have less banners." - Ezra
 

1) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - Milwaukee Bucks, Los Angeles Lakers - 1969 - 1989

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Career accomplishments:

- basketball Hall of Fame
- member of six NBA championship teams
- second all-time in games played in NBA history
- first all-time in minutes played in NBA history
- first all-time in field goals made in NBA history
- eighth all-time in free throws made in NBA history
- fifth all-time in free throws attempted in the NBA
- sixth all-time in defensive rebounds in NBA history
- third all-time in total rebounds in NBA history
- third all-time in blocks in NBA history
- first all-time in points in NBA history
- eighth all-time in blocks per game in NBA history 
- 19-time NBA All-Star
- six-time NBA MVP
- two-time NBA Finals MVP
- 15-time All-NBA selection
- 11-time NBA All-Defensive Team selection
- NBA Rookie of the Year
- NBA All-Rookie Team

"Forget all of his accomplishments on the court - the man fought Bruce Lee in Game of Death and was a co-pilot in Airplane!.  'Nuff said." - Jeff Fox

"Of grace, of man, and the indefensible sky hook.  Amazingly enough, I think Abdul-Jabbar is perhaps one of the most underrated players of all time.  "Ranked #1 center, yet underrated?  How so?" I hear you ask...  Well, when we talk about the GOAT, and who could challenge Jordan's status for that epithet, Kareem's name is almost never mentioned.  And it should be.  Perhaps it was his dour demeanor - Kareem could be one testy S.O.B.  Even now with age, whereas Bill Russell has mellowed, there is still at times an ill humor present that is quite saddening from such a great man.  Still, his resume stands up to anyone's who has played the game.  And if you talk about the GOAT not being simply just NBA, but HS/College too, then Lew Alcindor/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has no peer.  None at all.  Not even Jordan.  His place in history is misunderstood, at times, even by Kareem himself." - Don 

"The cranky, always scowling, old Kareem at the end of his career is not the guy who dominated the league for so long. Kareem was a high school legend, a college star and the best center to grace the hardwood in the history of the NBA. Six titles, six MVPs, all-time leading points scorer and owner of one of the most beautiful and unstoppable shots the game has ever seen – the skyhook. As a Celtics guy, Kareem was the most-hated Laker in the 80s, but it came with a lot of (grudging) respect." - brumbygg
 
"When you compare his resume to anyone else in league history, I say Kareem is the most underrated player ever historically.  Also, did you know that the dunk was outlawed in college basketball for nine years beginning in 1967, primarily because of Kareem?" - Dan Bonk 

"I don't think anyone in the history of the NBA can match his combination of durability, skills, and overall greatness." - College Wolf 



Previous Top Tens of All-Time: Point Guards, Shooting Guards, Small Forwards, Power Forwards.


125 comments
funkumite
funkumite

i can't believe shaq is ahead of olajuwon on this list...  like you mentioned, shaq left you wanting much more; he could have been.  olajuwon peaked!  and one year hakeem was #3 in the NBA in steals total!!!  behind alvin robinson and michael jordan. hakeem was a center folks!!!  AND: olajuwon took shaq to school over and over in the finals... and you have him ahead of shaq?!?!  

Turtle15
Turtle15

Wilt Chamberlains is by far the best player ever........MJ is not even close.....put him at #1 and give the guy some respect

DanielParker
DanielParker

Kareem is 5th . 1) Wilt Chaimberlain 2) Shaq (4 rings 6 finals) 3) Hakeem5)  Bill Russel ultimate team player probably a power forward today     5) Kareem Magic, BIG GAME JAMES  and Michael THOMPSON(Basically alternated with him his last 3 years) extended his career

ShaiyonHariri
ShaiyonHariri

1) Hakeem

2) Kareem

3) Wilt Chaimberlain

4) Shaq

5)  Bill Russel

ShaiyonHariri
ShaiyonHariri

Screw what I said;

1) Kareem [obvoius]

2) Hakeem [pure natural at basketball]

3) Wilt [Dominant]

4) Shaq [It's shaq.]

5) Bill Russel [rings, dominance]

davidtrw
davidtrw like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Seriously?  Hakeem at number 5?  Wilt at number 3?

 

Are you brain dead.  Wilt is the all time best #1 player to ever live.  Kareem comes up second and Hakeem is number 3.  Then Russel.  I swear, are you crazy with this list.

NB7
NB7 like.author.displayName 1 Like

if only Javale Mcgee wasn't mentally retarded

lucwalker2
lucwalker2

 @NB7  he would be the best center in the game today

joaosilva
joaosilva

1-chamberlain

2-jabbar

3-russell

4-olajuwon

5-malone (3time mvp)

6-shaq

7-ewing

8-mikan(first nba star)

9-robinson

10-walton

 

 

pdomanski
pdomanski like.author.displayName 1 Like

Something interesting in all of this Bill Russell debate:What about Tim Duncan? Tim Duncan played 14 seasons in the NBA, and was 1st-team all-defense eight times, second-team all-defense another five. The only season he didn't receive first or second team all-defense was in his final season, when missing 24 games caused him to lose the second-team honor to Tyson Chandler.

 

And Duncan averaged 20 points to Russell's 12. Yet nobody here has even mentioned Duncan, who carried the Spurs to four championships.Back to Russell for a moment. Some of you are using the "Russell's defense makes him better" argument. The idea that he was SO key to those championship teams. I'll bring up a name, let's see if anyone here gets my point.

 

Ben Wallace.

 

He was the key to the Detroit Pistons. He won four defensive player of the year awards and won a championship in Detroit. He went up against Tim Duncan head to head many times and the two clashed in Russell/Chamberlain fashion. Who's better, Wallace or Duncan? Duncan, by a light year, right? Same thing with Chamberlain and Russell. Ben Wallace was the heart of that 2004 championship team, but if you ask me in 2006 if I would trade Wallace for Duncan what do you think my answer would be? "Hmm, trade great defensive center who doesn't score for one who's almost as good defensively and scores bunches..." Yeah, herpety-derp.

CHerrmann15
CHerrmann15

 @pdomanski 

wallace for duncan?....your high....prime verse prime duncan is already the best power forward there was...not even close

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @pdomanski 

Ooooooh kay....

Well, firstly: the majority of people consider Duncan a 'Power Forward' - which is even where the Spurs list him.  So allow me to introduce you to our "Top Ten PF List": http://www.hoopsmanifesto.com/articles/basketball/top-10-nba-power-forwards-of-all-time.html

 

But anyway... the crux of your argument is revolving around a comparison of Bill Russell to Ben Wallace?  Oh dear god...

Cheers for that: I needed a laugh.

pdomanski
pdomanski

 @WithMalice Duncan has been the team's primary center since Nesterovic left in 2005. Robinson also missed significant time during his last season, and even then was coming off of the bench many games. Duncan played more center than PF that year, which puts him at 8 center to 7 PF. It's close, but ultimately if you're putting a guy in one category Duncan belongs in center and not PF, although he should probably be top-three either way.

logankulas
logankulas

guys Dwight Howard is number 10 because all you guys know about Bill Walton is his college career 

FredLombardo
FredLombardo

Bill Russell is rated too high.  The man wasn't even the best scorer on his own team most of the time.  I would put it like this  1.  Chamberlain, 2.  Hakeem, 3.  Kareem, 4.  Shaq  5.  Moses Malone,  6.  David Robinson, 7,  Ewing, 8.  Russell,  9.  Bill Walton,  10.  Dwight Howard,

 

Hakeem won 2 rings as "da man" while Kareem won 1 as "da man".  

DanielParker
DanielParker

 @FredLombardoCareer  .561 fg  22.5 rbs  4.3 assist  15.1 pts per game . His higest avg seasons were 19 a game. Imagine Dennis Rodman  avg 18 pts a game . Dominate defender also.

comebacksonics
comebacksonics

Hakeem is great top 5 definitely. But two numbers mean everything 22 and 11 22 as his career rebounding average and 11 nba rings

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @FredLombardo I think it's pretty duplicitous that you deride Russell because he wasn't "the best scorer on his team", yet place Kareem (all time points leader) at #4.  Perhaps have a look at how your #1 (Wilt) matched up against your #8 head-to-head.  Then come back.

 

Additionally, your dismissal of Kareem is unfounded: whilst Magic Johnson's game 6 of the 1980 Finals was amazing, Kareem was (to parlay your phrase) "da man" of that Finals series.  He was clearly the best player of the series, with dominating performances in games 1, 2, 3 and 5.  Magic won the MVP on the strength of a single game.

 

Either way, the entire notion of measuring a player by being "da man" is incredibly subjective and a pretty inaccurate metric.

 

 

Please note: this list wasn't "Top Ten Scoring Centers of All Time". 

Matyouloid
Matyouloid

 @WithMalice  @FredLombardo You said: "Perhaps have a look at how your #1 (Wilt) matched up against your #8 head-to-head.  Then come back."The most of the games they played were win by russel team, beacuse the celtics actually were a better team.BUT, Chamberlain absolutley abused russel on rebounding, on scoring, on blocking, on defense. No other man could be as dominant as chamberlain has been in his prime. In his 76ers years he dominated every aspect of the game (50 ppg, 25 rpg and for example 55 rebounds against bill russel in 1962) and when they asked him to score less and pass the ball, he avereged 8.6 apg leading the league in assists.Just watch some of his games before the injury and you will understand his athleticism... He accomplished a 3-step off one leg High Jump PR of 6'6.75 in an official competition. In his games, you can watch him defending the ball, blocking the shot, taking the rebound, pass the ball to the pg, RUN THE COURT FASTER THAN THE OTHER GUARDS, take position inside and destroy the rim with a powerful dunk.He could just dunk the ball from the free throw line (so they changed the rules). And what about his skills? He praticly invented the modern post-turnaround-fadeaway shot and many times he could dribble the ball down the court and shoot a jump-shot with any kind of problems. And his finger-roll shot on the low post was, together with kareem sky-hook (that he used to block sometimes) the most undefendeble shot ever.He's been, arguably the best player of all time, but there is no doubt he has been the BEST center.

logankulas
logankulas

 @WithMalice  @FredLombardo actually in the 1980 NBA finals Magic started of at center yes a 6'9 rookie PG was center in one of the biggest games of his life and Kareem was to lazy to get off his A** to play (just kidding I know he was injured) 

 

and Kareem only scored the most points ever was because he played for 20 years and also played the most minutes ever but all and all Kareem was a great player but only Wilt could get 21 assists 100 points and 55 rebounds out of all the centers

logankulas
logankulas

 @WithMalice Kareem was not as good as Wilt it's not a comp Wilt leeds Kareem in every single statistical catagory  and Wilt even averaged 70% in one season and the only reason he lost to russell was because russell had Johny Havlicek and Bob Cousy all wilt had was Jerry West in the last year of his career

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @logankulas You left something off Wilt's resume: "Get destroyed every time he played Russell."

 

 

And Kareem?  The longevity itself is AMAZING, and should never be something that's considered a negative.  'Kareem could score like any average player'?  I hadn't thought this possible, because... well... you weren't that high at any rate... but you've sunk even lower in my estimation.

logankulas
logankulas

 @WithMalice Lets make this clear Wilt had size, he had strength, he had the ability to score, he could crash boards, he could drop dimes, thread needles and he could defend all russell could do is Rebound and block and Abdul-Jabbar could score like any average NBA player, he couldn't rebound as well as Wilt or defend, he couldn't do anything better than wilt except winning rings with Magic adn don't get me wrong I love Kareem (I know he has the most points in NBA history but he had a 20 year career)

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @logankulas  All this tells me is that you really don't appreciate basketball appropriately.

 

 

You do realise it's the game with the round ball...

Jeff Fox
Jeff Fox moderator

 @WithMalice  @FredLombardo And I think among the positions on the court, scoring is least important from your center.  Defense is the most important thing a center/big man contributes to a winning team.  And if you don't think Russell was the main reason Boston was winning all those titles, look at their record the season after he retired.

pdomanski
pdomanski

 @WithMalice  @logankulas Ben Wallace matched head-to-head with Tim Duncan in the 2005 Finals, which went seven tight games. Does that mean that Wallace was just as good? Or maybe Duncan simply carried a weaker team (aside from himself) when compared to the players Wallace was working with. That's certainly what it seems to be when you look at it piece by piece. Billups, Hamilton, Prince, R.Wallace against Ginobli, Parker, Bowen, Horry? Tim Duncan was their only advantage in the starting lineup.

logankulas
logankulas

 @Jeff Fox  @WithMalice  @FredLombardo actually it's about there overall ability and in my opinion if your a center and you lead the league in rebounds, points and assists you are the best center ever (and he probably would've lead the league in blocks if they were recorded)

logankulas
logankulas

Okay I've researched my NBA so now this is how it goes 

#1) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

#2) Wilt Chamberlain

#3) Shaquille O'Neal (Rings, MVP, All-NBA, Stats )

#4) Hakeem Olajuwon

#5) Bill Russell ( Dwight Howard he can't score but his defense is incredible )

#6) Moses Malone

#7) David Robinson

#8) Patrick Ewing

#9) George Mikan

10) Dikembe Mutombo

Notable Mentions:

Dwight Howard, Robert Parish and Bill Walton.

If you don't like my list reply and tell me what you think please tell me your list I want to se if you know anything

gcubed
gcubed

 @logankulas Thanks for leaving Walton off.  I just don't get the big deal with him.

DanielParker
DanielParker

 @logankulas Parrish was better than Dikembe. Mourning was better than Dikembe. Brad Dauherty was better than Dikembe.

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @logankulas 

See... your problem is all the BSing around you did before kinda dilutes any serious attempt now. 

However... nice list.  Kinda.  I think you're really undervaluing what Russell did tho'.  Russell absolutely could score... but didn't need to.Have a look at how he went head-to-head against Wilt.

logankulas
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1 SHAQ

2 KAREEM

3 WILT THE STILT

4 HAKEEM "THE DREAN" OLAJUWON

5 BILL RUSSELL

6 M.MALONE

7 DAVID ROBINSON

8 PATRICK EWING

9 GEORGE MIKAN

10 DWIGHT HOWARD

WithMalice
WithMalice

 @logankulas What the f**k dude, stay away from basketball.  All of it.  Now, go forth and procreate.  But please don't take that literally.

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haddon16
haddon16

oh yeah....hakeem is 8th on the all time steals list,,,,a center...number 8....wow

haddon16
haddon16

people say hakeem only dominated shaq because shaq wasnt in his prime yet....i would argue shaq was better as a younger player because he was in shape yet and also that hakeem was already in the league for 10 years...so  shaq has no excuses.

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